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Uni Zueto
Amarr
Nakama
Gemini Federation
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Posted - 2008.10.27 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Uni Zueto on 27/10/2008 19:16:29
 Originally by: Confuzer
Shar:
You know this is a non-argument right? If the reaction to your action is consistent and done by the same char - 24/7 - then indeed the reactor has no life.
I am no mood to explain this further.
You know this thread is hilarious because of the people joining in the discusion who are the users of the Trader Bots pushing their denials.
Any properly formatted Google search will locate at least three pieces of software that perform market orders automatically on the Eve client. They all fail virus inspection because they are based off of key logging code but that doesn't stop players with several computers from creating alts, setting up the Trader bot and watching several markets using a just-in-time buy-to-sell strategy.
I've sent detailed evidence about alt naming, usage, failure to communicate, exacting purchasing algorithms, etc in many petitions and never once has CCP deleted one of these accounts TMK.
My advice is to research these programs, compete against them and realize that they can be your ally because they can be manipluated into some seriously stupid postitions that benefit you. CCP has neither the will nor the tools and manpower to hunt down these players and since they are paying customers bringing in hard cash to some underpaid people somewhere in the world I am begrudgingly accepting them.
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Uni Zueto
Amarr
Nakama
Gemini Federation
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Posted - 2008.10.27 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Right because no group of humans averaging close to 800 people in a single area could possible ever remotely update orders on a near constant basis.
*facepalm
Actually I am talking about products worth 20m and above so the number of buyers and sellers whose name I see in my journal are limited to the same 6 who are all moving things in a very precise and similar manner 8 to 16 hours everyday.
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Uni Zueto
Amarr
Nakama
Gemini Federation
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Posted - 2008.10.27 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Clair Bear
Originally by: Uni Zueto
the same 6 who are all moving things in a very precise and similar manner 8 to 16 hours everyday.
Because running the bot an extra 15 to 7 hours is just too expensive in terms of electricity, amirite?
Shouldn't be hard to write a market bot from a coding standpoint. Just like it shouldn't be hard to write one to submit orders to an online brokerage. However, unlike RL markets in eve respond much better to manipulation with trivial amount of funds, so a truly clever tradebot would be very, very hard to pull off. And would require constant maintenance.
In contrast, the cost of a human per hour is dirt cheap in some areas of the world.
The human labor hypothesis would explian why some of these opponents log in the same Eve time almost everyday and off at about the same time. Some of the traders do operate all day and when they are missing it is so obvious to me when I can't lead the market around by the nose anymore. Disconnects would explain those.
I'm not saying anything should be done about it. This is the way trade is in Jita and many other hubs; hardcore.
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